Flynn wrote:Am I the only one that likes the Burton films?
Solo wrote:Lastly, Burton's Batmobile puts the rest to shame. Sorry Tumbler, you're cool and all, but no where near as classy.
Chosen One wrote:But yeah, hands down, Burton's Batmobile wins it at this stage. But the Tumbler still beats that glow in the dark job of the Schumacher films.
Azaghal wrote:I gotta agree that the Burton Batmobile was by far the best. I also found something appealing in the slightly weird Gotham of the earlier films that the ultrarealistic Dark Knight doesn't quite capture...
Logan wrote:Not only is Burton's Batmobile (mind you, not that separating nonsense from Batman Returns, but the first..) the epitome of comic-meets-reality design, but think to the scenes in the film showing the scale and scope of Gotham City. It's realistic architecture expanded comically. By that, meaning that it looks both realistic and wholly exaggerated all at the same time. Burton's vision is still ahead of its time.
Jedd the Jedi wrote:As for the appearance of Gotham City, I do have to agree that there is something oddly appealing about Anton Furst''s neo-gothic, New York-on-steroids look.
As far as ranking Batman performances go... in order, I'd have it go like this (with reasons):
1.- Bale: Simply for the realism. Not too many fancy Bat-gadgets, conception is solid with military-type functionality lending to plausibility. The growling is a bit on the irritating side. Keanu Reeves though? THAT'S someone who looks confused by his own hair.
2.- Keaton: While Burton's films did not have the decidedly darker nature of Nolan's recent forays into the character, there is a depth of character built into the storylines. Keaton masterfully plays the part with the phenomenal development team (Burton, Furst, Elfman). Nicholson's Joker is an icon, and comparing that to Ledger's performance is like comparing apples to rocks and saying they're the same because they're roundish.
3.- Adam West: Because mainstreaming a comic book and becoming an icon for doing it isn't exactly easy. People can name other stuff that Christian Bale, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney did (just for fun, and without looking it up... Reign of Fire, Multiplicity, Heat, Ocean's Eleven right off the top of my head). Name something else Adam West was in without searching for it (before Family Guy, which makes it my second reference to it in the same thread). Christopher Reeve was Superman. Adam West was Batman. End of story.
4.- Val Kilmer: Because it wasn't as awful as Clooney.
5.- George Clooney: Because I can't just go on a vulgar tirade and rank him last in life.
And just to keep the discussion going... seriously, what is the idea behind the Penguin? I just don't get it.. I understand that different things appeal to different people, but that character just seems like someone's really crappy idea one day that stuck. You know the saying, if you throw enough mud, something's bound to stick... But I'm open to correction on the subject.