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Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

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Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

Postby Staff » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:59 am

8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer


It’s 2009, I get a glimpse of the first Midi set, 7778 Midi-scale Millennium Falcon. I completely dismiss it. I decide I’m not going to bother with it. It’s too small. It’s too expensive. It’s too boring. What place does it have in my collection? I move on and forget about it. Several months pass and one day while I’m at Wal-mart (where both 7778 and 8099 are retailer exclusives) I stroll into the LEGO aisle and there sits the Midi Falcon with a red clearance sticker of $19 (MSRP was $39.99 US). What do I do? I buy it and guess what? It’s awesome. So you’d think if I ended up liking 7778 enough to call it awesome, I'd be eager to get my hands on the latest Midi-scale set, 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer. Not quite.
8099 - Box Front

I dismissed this set, but for a different reason. You see, when the Falcon was on Wal-mart’s shelves in 2009 through 2010, I noticed something. Nobody seemed to be buying it. I don’t know if it was confined to my region of the world or if it was widespread. Interest in the set appeared, to put it politely, minimal. I was convinced that if I waited on the Midi Star Destroyer, I would find it on clearance in a few months. I was right. This was simultaneously fantastic and disappointing.
8099 - Box Back

It’s fantastic because otherwise I might've skipped this great "little" set. Like the Midi Falcon, the Midi Star Destroyer had an MSRP of $39.99 US, which at 423 pieces (and about 9 cents a part) is notably unusual for a licensed theme set. One of the initial problems with the set (and the Falcon) is it’s difficult to judge by the box or images on the internet. I dismissed the Falcon because what I saw on the box didn’t justify the price tag. That thought crossed my mind with the Midi Star Destroyer, but instead of jumping to conclusions, I decided to wait until it was in my hands to form an opinion.
8099 - Top

The Midi Star Destroyer is surprisingly substantial. Don’t get me wrong, it’s small in comparison to the other Star Destroyers (10030, 6211), but that’s the point. You can easily hold it in your hand and it remains stable. Because of that stability, it’s the most swooshable LEGO Star Destroyer to hit the market (putting aside the Mini Star Destroyer, but let’s not go there). I swoosh it all the time. I know it doesn’t swoosh in any of the films (does jumping in and out of hyperspace count as swooshing?), but if I can, I’m going to do it. It’s much more satisfying and less frightening than trying to swoosh the UCS Star Destroyer.
8099 - Upper Detail

It packs a large amount of detail, though not always the most accurate (three turrets per side, instead of four), in its compact frame. The details, both obvious and subtle, look great for the size without much detraction. My biggest complaint with the appearance is the sporadic use of dark gray. It does bring out some surface detail and removes some of the monotony on each of the four wedges, but I can’t help be feel it looks wrong (that’s because it is!). Also, there are no stickers or printed parts, so if you’re looking for a gray parts pack filled with wedge plates of various sizes, tiles (including 1x3s), and a handful of plates with clips, this is a great choice.
8099 - Exploded View

Speaking of monotony, that’s how I’d describe the construction of those four wedges. 8099 isn’t the worst offender in the monotony category (usually reserved for UCS sets), but it’s worth noting if you’re looking for a quick, interesting, or varied build.
8099 - Central Structure Detail
8099 - Central Structure

8099 - Side Cutaway

The most interesting portion of the build was the interior structure. It holds everything together and it does this job incredibly well. The design is rather clever while being more straightforward than I imagined from looking at the box. Attaching the wedges to this structure was a breeze and I think I only had to do it twice to get it right without breaking it.
8099 - Lower Detail

One aspect of the diminutive size that really works is the greebling detail along the sides. There isn’t much in terms of interesting pieces, but because of the toothing on the wedge plates it manages to look more detailed than it otherwise would. The designer(s) did throw a few white and transparent round 1x1s for additional detail, but on this scale I find them to be visually distracting.
8099 - Underside

A complaint I hear or read frequently about LEGO Star Wars sets is the lack of a detailed underside, or in some cases, the complete lack of an underside. Well, here you go, a genuine underside! That should've been on the box and as an exclamation in the catalog as a selling point. Granted it’s the underside of a Star Destroyer where there wasn’t much to begin with, I still can't help but love it! I’d even call it more detailed than the underside of the UCS Star Destroyer (10030). Why? This set includes that dome thing (uh, Solar Ionization Reactor, thanks Wookieepedia)! That’s major points in my book. I’m not even disappointed by the docking bays, which are represented by black tiles. I would have like each bay to have been sunk in one plate deeper for added emphasis.
8099 - Stand Inserted

Also present on the underside is a simple and effective five-piece stand. It’s held in place by a Technic axle and pin connector and a red Technic 2 axle. It keeps the ship level when displayed and can easily removed when you want to go for a swoosh.
8099 - Thrusters

8099 - Thruster Detached
8099 - Thruster Attached

At the rear of the ship we have the least stable component of the build, the thrusters. They connect to the body of the ship with Technic half-pins slid over antennas. This design holds the thrusters to the central structure fairly well. I’ve found while playing—testing, I mean—this section tends to rattle ever so slightly and in some cases, if bumped, it falls off leaving the half-pins and antennas behind. The real problem comes from the three dishes along the back. Since they only have one central connection point, even the lightest touch will pop them out of place. In display situations, this isn't much of a problem, but in play scenarios (or holding the set from the rear) it might be.
8099 - Rear

Remember how I said finding this on clearance was both fantastic and disappointing? Well, I ended up liking this set much more than I thought I would. I'd like to see the Midi line continue, but if the trend I’ve witnessed continues and these only sell on clearance, I doubt that’s going to happen. I’m not even entirely sure who the market is for this scale. Is it the people who ogle the UCS sets, yet aren't in a position to buy them? Maybe. Is it for the people who don't have the space for the UCS sets? Again, maybe. They’re recommended for kids aged 9-14, but with the lack of minifigures and play features I can’t imagine too many kids in the age group would be excited to get this as a birthday present.

Since I’m not aged 9-14, I look at it differently. I see a superb representation of the Imperial Star Destroyer that isn’t $300+. It’s easy to display nearly anywhere and looks nice among other Original Trilogy sets. It’s a bit less visually interesting than the Midi Falcon since it’s a mass of gray and only gray and that’s where I'm conflicted on the $40 price tag. It’s too plain and unexciting as a LEGO set to justify a full price purchase if it can be avoided, even at 9 cents per part.

That said, if you have the opportunity to get one I still recommend it and highly if you can find it under MSRP or missed out on previous Star Destroyers (Note: As of this writing 8099 is no longer in production so you might have to do a little searching to find one. I did a quick search and found several sub-MSRP). Even if you don’t care for Star Wars it makes a great parts pack, so if you have an active imagination, you can't lose.

Value: 7/10
Build Quality: 8/10
Accuracy: 8/10
Swoosh Factor: 10/10
Play Features: 2/10
Minifigs: N/A
Reviewer’s Tilt: 9/10
Overall: 7.3/10
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Re: Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

Postby Pellaeon » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:53 am

I love this set, and the Falcon before it. I'm sad to see the midi-scale line disappear, but I'm not surprised it lacked mass-market appeal. Maybe if they'd included a minifig or two, for the kids?

I would love to see a midi-scale contest on FBTB: recreate a classic Star Wars vehicle in the highest quality possible in a $40 set. Ideally we'd ban "illegal" building techniques, with the goal of making models that really could have been released by TLG. I would definitely enter, and then after the contest I'd recreate some of the best entries and have a whole display case full of midi-scale models!
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Re: Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

Postby PjB » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:15 am

I think these sets are meant mostly for display, with the occasional swoosh as you said. I'd say you're right that the people who end up buying them are Star Wars fans who want something relatively complex to build and display, but don't have the money, space, or interest in UCS sets. They come with more pieces than you'd think and are nicely detailed for their small scale, don't include minifigs, and are overpriced; kind of like the Architecture Series for Star Wars types. A cool idea if you think about it, but these are almost definitely the reasons they only sell on clearance (along with the lack of shelf appeal like you said). However much we'd like to deny it, LEGO's primary consumer are kids, specifically boys. I don't see many 9-14-year-olds looking at one of these sets in a shop and thinking "wouldn't that look nice on the mantel". Incidentally, this is where I keep my small collection of original trilogy ships (which happily includes the midi-Falcon), but I'm neither age 9-14 nor a boy. This is why the Architecture sets are packaged differently (all sophisticated and black) and put in a separate part of the store from the rest of the LEGO sets, so adults feel okay about spending too much money on something artsy instead of feeling silly for buying an overpriced kids' toy.

Gah sorry for the wall of text, but you got me thinking which, in my book, is the mark of a good review. I'll conclude by saying I love the midi-Falcon (even though it's technically my sister's, and she did buy it on sale), I'm sure I'd like this set if I got it, and I'm sad that the midi-scale line is probably going to end. Also, nice idea for a contest Pellaeon :D .
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Re: Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

Postby Stylin291 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:42 pm

I think you summed up this review just right. It completely reflects the way I feel about this scale and this (these) model(s). I am one of those non-between-the-ages-of-9-and-14 people who LOVES Lego StarWars, but does not want to spend 300plus dollars on a dust collecting toy, and does not have the room for giant UCS products -- as lovely and drool-worthy as they are.

I honestly hope Lego continues the scale/line for me just long enough to get the core, iconic ships of the original trilogy -- perhaps an X-wing, a Snow-Speeder, Tie-Fighter, and a Slave1? I think I'm being overly optimistic, though.

You pointed out that these were not such a popular line where you live, but I had trouble finding these sets @ my local WalMart in America's Heartland. I think the demand varies. I also think the product is aimed @ the wrong age group, as my 7yr old nephew who LOVES Lego StarWars, only had minimal interest in the completed model. I, however, am not ashamed to admit that I take my Midi-Scale models out for a swoosh or two when I'm dusting... They scream for it, don't they? :D

Thanks for visiting some of these older sets. It's nice to hear people's retrospective feedback on some of my favorite things, and you do a stellar review! Kudos.
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Re: Review: 8099 Midi-scale Imperial Star Destroyer

Postby sparkart » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:55 pm

I'm going to miss the Star Wars midi line-up, too. Building TLG's Midi-scale Falcon got me to finally finish my own Midi-nnium Falcon:

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Midi-nnium Falcon by SPARKART!, on Flickr

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midi Shuttle scene by fbtb, on Flickr

I like the swooshability of the midi-size ships. I have to admit that I'm in the minority of Lego fans that's indifferent to minifigs. About the only time I buy minifigs is to make a Brinklink's store minimum, or to meet the "must seat a minifig" rules of an FBTB vehicle contest.
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