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Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

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Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby Staff » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:29 am

75037 - Full Set

When is a battle pack not a battle pack? The obvious joke answer is "whenever it's one of the crazy minifigure assortments in all the other sets," but that's too easy. Maybe when a set is focused on a few figures of the same type that can be used to build an army, and more than that, battle? Nah, can't be that obvious.

Battle on Saleucami is an odd set. It's battle pack sized, but marketed as a regular set. At $15, it's the first set at that price point since 2005's Tri-Droid fighter (or 2006's $16 A-Wing), and sort of sits in a strange place between LEGO's $12 battle packs and $25 base sets. 183 pieces is certainly nothing to sneeze at in a small set like this, even if it's heavy on battle droids over regular minifigs (you get one, a Clone ARC trooper).

At first, I figured this was kind of a throwaway set in the lineup because Lego didn't want three different battle packs for Clone Troopers. After building it though, I'm thinking that this should be the benchmark for all Lego Battle packs. It combines some very interesting and unique play features with some good builds and decent army builder figures (assuming you're building a droid army, that is).

This set, more than probably any other Star Wars set, is designed with "play" in mind, and to show off the new flick-fire launchers. The launchers are in just about every 2014 Star Wars set that's not a battle pack (Grevious' Wheel Bike doesn't have them either), and they're going to end up being almost as common as flick-fires if you buy and part out sets.

75037 - Minifigs

This set isn't listed as a battle pack, but $15 for 5 minifigs certainly qualifies it as one. Sure, we only get one clone and the rest are droids, but still, that's a lot of builder right there. I don't think it's fair that a droid gets counted the same as a minifig on value or cost, since they're a whole lot easier to made and generally less plastic than a minifig. That being said, it's still nice to just get some normal guys, and I wish they'd do the same thing with Clones.

 75037 - BARC Trooper 75037 - BARC Trooper Back

The clone we get is a BARC / ARC trooper. [email protected] says BARC, the originally was typically called ARC, and Brickset just says "Saleucami Clone Trooper." Really, he's just the clone that gets to shoot a lot of battle droids while sitting on his speeder bike. We're still in the theme we got in the battle packs of more elaborate printing, new helmets, and some customization. Mismatched arms are interesting, and not especially common.

 75037 - BARC Trooper Face 75037 - BARC Trooper Comparison

It's odd to think that the original trooper is nine years old at this point. The Clone Scout Walker that came with this guy originally was a budget $10 in the era before battle packs. It was actually a pretty nice little set that I owned several of, which was shocking, cause I was a whole lot less capable of buying a lot of sets back then. Guess $10 makes impulse buys easier, and Lego is counting on $15 being the new $10? We've had quite the discussion on the forums about these new helmets and the height difference. Maybe Clones are just genetically engineered to look out of their eyebrows (that or they could just redirect the vision from the visor to a HUD screen). That or it's more about the look of the helmet and not matching up alignment.

75037 - Super Battle Droids

The stands are actually a crucial part of the set, and there are stands set up for each droid (one is used on the STAP instead of the droid). Otherwise, these are standard Super Battle Droids. The reason for the stands? To shoot with the new flick-fire gun! You'll see how the plant section is put together later in the review, but this whole set is basically a big battle playset!

75037 - Battle Droids

We get two regular battle droids as well, one with a sideways hand for holding a blaster and one for fling around on the STAP.

75037 - STAP

The STAP really hasn't changed all that much from the previous versions we've gotten lately, most recently in a Mace Windu's Jedi Starfighter (which came with two).

75037 - STAP Comparison

This is actually a near copy of that version, with just a difference on the base and the colors of the bricks with side studs that hold the wings and bullhorns. Otherwise, the same, down to the stickers. That's not a bad thing, really, but it still has the issue of only really working when attached to the base. In this set, though, that's kind of the point.

75037 - BARC Speeder

Our clone gets to ride a BARC speeder with the new flick-fire built right into the front. This is one of the more ingeneous uses of the new brick, since it builds it right into the speeder itself. The color looks a little weird next to all the white, but it's nice that it doesn't really add a lot of bulk to the ship overall.

75037 - BARC Front

The build isn't all that much different from the last BARC we got in a battle pack, though it is quite a bit more lightweight than the BARC in the BARC speeder set that came out last year. That's not all that surprising, given that it's lacking a sidecar. I am kind of curious to see if someone takes on the challenge of MOC'ing up that version with this new flick-fire mechanism. It'd look great on that version of the bike, and it's sized to hide the launcher a bit more.

75037 - BARC Back

It's actually a fairly simple build outside the launcher, and the back is sort of tacked-on. There are no stickers for accents or colors, only the "droid killing" marks that I made fun of Rex for. Given what I've seen of the Clone Wars (I've made it through season 1!), killing 5 clankers is like four seconds in any given battle, so this must be a rookie pilot.

75037 - BARC Underside

The underside is pretty much thus there, and not much to it.

75037 - Droid Area

Initially, you'd look at this plant section and just see it as a throw-in part of the set, but turns out, this is basically the point of the whole thing. We get some nice 2x1 curved slopes in olive green, and some new green vine plants that I want a whole lot more of. The rest of the plants and slopes are basic and simple, and the kind of things you can always use more of.

75037 - Droid Area Top

When you look down on the stand, though, you see the tiles and slopes are set up for those droid stands above. In other words, aim that BARC speeder, let the missile fly, and try to knock down the droids. As a playset feature, I just absolutely love it! This is one of the best little features that's been included in a set in a very long time, and the kind of thing that should get worked into more sets (and every battle pack going forward).

75037 - Droid Area Back

What I love about this is that it gives a whole lot of choices for creativity past just building, and lets kids create a game with it. It reminds me of one of my favorite games as a kid, which involved plastic army men and marbles (do kids have marbles anymore)? Basically, we set up battle lines on either side, and you got to shoot with the marble (sometimes it was a super ball), and try to knock down the other guys troops. Me and my friends wasted a whole mess of our childhood playing that (and clogged a couple of drains with said marbles or balls, since we were playing in the basement... it was the largest flat surface).

There's a lot of promise for setting up battle droids like this, and I wish more of the sets this cycle would have released something like that. Hopefully kids have enough parts to make them, or we see them hit pick-a-brick, because this is just too good of an idea to let go. The Lego Games might be dead, but they introduced something that could be even better and just requires buying a bunch of sets (seems kind of win-win for LEGO there).

In the end, this set ended up being a genuine surprise. It's hard to call value on it being mostly droids, but really, at just $3 more than the battle packs, I'd lump it into that same value. It gives genuine army-builder ability and encourages some re-purchases with the base, shooter, and the ideas behind it. More than that, after some really terrible playset features lately (looking at you, Sail Barge), we got something genuinely unique and fun.

What I liked

  • Best playset ideas I've seen in any Star Wars Lego set, and encourages a lot of imagination past just building

  • New BARC Trooper is a pretty nice upgrade which keeps a lot of the old style in place (even if the helmet is taller)

  • Generic droids make this a legitimate army builder set, and the parts are unique enough to make getting extras worthwhile

What I didn't like

  • Would have liked to see another clone or another battle droid to up value slightly for the extra money

  • That Super Battle droid behind the plant is going to be pretty hard to hit

  • The idea of this set isn't pervasive enough in the lineup, so you're going to need more parts for bigger battles.

Verdict: 4 of 5. This set was a genuine surprise, and the playset value can give a lot of encouragement to repurchase it, especially if it hits a sale. You can purchase 75037 Battle on Saleucami on right now. This, and all the new Star Wars sets, are scheduled for release on March 1st.

75037 Box Art
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby Oky Wan Kenobi » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:08 pm

I disagree. This is the WORST use of the new missile launchers. The gray sticks out like a sore thumb on the mostly white speederbike and the gaping hole behind it for shooting the missile makes it even worse. I'm usually not much of a stickler when it comes to making compromises in accuracy in favor of playability, but this is going a bit too far for my taste. I hope this is the only time they use these launchers on a speederbike unless they find a more elegant way to incorporate them. And what's so brilliant about putting minifigs on stands? I mean, it's not like you couldn't knock them down with missiles before. That's just my humble opinion, though, and I'm glad you were happy with your buy in the end.

Oh, and as for the BARC/ARC confusion, a BARC trooper is basically an ARC trooper specialized in handling speederbikes, so both descriptions are correct. I just call him 91st Recon Corps trooper or simply Commander Neyo. :D
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby dWhisper » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:08 pm

The color is off (and I mentioned that in the review), but that's something that can be corrected. Like I said, combining that shooter and the previous BARC would be a good compromise, and could make for a nice mix.

As for the brilliance, it's less about what you could do before (you could), but making that an intrinsic part of the play features for the set. Lego loves to stick play features into a set that make no sense (the cannon on the Sail Barge, trap doors on so many Super Hero sets, hidden panels in Ewok Forrest, those stupid little catapults), and from the perspective of kids, it makes sense. This is the first instance that I really recall where the play feature makes sense and doesn't detract from the build itself. More than that, it encourages more play modes than simple shoot-and-knock-down would before. Instead of being something you could do, it's now something you're encouraged to do. And encouragement can make all the difference in things like this.

Also, thanks for the BARC/ARC thing. I tried to look (very halfheartedly, I'll admit), but didn't come up with much.
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby darth_fett » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:52 pm

I've always known that BARC troopers are the biker guys, but based on past sets I've always thought they had the ROTJ type scout trooper helmet. Just made sense to me, although i don't know why they require a special helmet for that. Maybe better peripheral vision.

I know these sets are geared towards kids and the play features are included to that extent. Still, i hate the build. Feels like 10 steps back after so many strides forward. The sidecar version finally had stickered skis, they had made decent looking front scoop engine, the colors and general shape came together well.

This new brick is entirely the wrong color, and frankly i think it needs to be differentiated from classic flick fires. For one they are spring powered, another is that they require the special 1x4 brick to fire, and the missiles are not really congruent to building with them. The back ends fit in minifig hands and lightsaber handles, sure, but the ball front doesn't really attach to anything. Call them 1x4 springfires maybe?
As an army builder it works. I have dozens of the old clones, and a bunch with the new helmets, i don't mind getting the ice cream squads that much. I think its odd that colors that denoted rank/specialty in the beginning of the 5(?) Year War ended up becoming squad designations, seemingly randomly. But i still need to flesh out my Yoda assassination squad and give my 2 Commander Codys some troops to uhm, command.

The overall build of the speederbike reminds me of those remote control sets of spiderman or batman on a motorcyle. Sure the figure comes off but it's a static piece of plastic that makes them look like they are on their hands and knees uhm looking for a contact lens. Nothing sexual about that pose..... >___>

It just feels like a vaguely speeder shaped gun to fire on droids that don't really need the stands. Still, it it cheaper to get that awesome grass than the Little Mermaid set with bright green grass.
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby Trooper10 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:32 am

I'm wondering if the red missile things are able to be modded with a sharpy knife? Ie could you cut the tail end off to make them only slightly longer than the 1x4 spring launcher brick thing ... then you might be able to build a better small speeder bike sized launcher?
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby darth_fett » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:21 am

It's true that the catch for the mechanism that fires the missile is just past the midpoint, but it can be loaded only 1 way, with the catch pointed "up". To trigger it, u need to push down which means that wherever u put the piece, it's going to need some free space behind it to work. I tried modifying the sidecar speeder with the piece on top of the jumper plates, under the long ramp and there is no way to fire it. Also, if u mount it into the front scoop, it looks goofy and doesn't stick well to underside. It expands the scoop about 2 plates in height and is yet again, not able to be fired. Stick these things on a starship and be done with it. Maybe mount those hand blasters instead of harpoons if u want a firing speederbike.
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby dWhisper » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:32 pm

I doubt the launcher will get any smaller. It's actually fairly small as it is. The length is more about giving you enough place to put your fingertip on there and fire it. I actually have a video for it set up for the AT-AP review that will go sometime in the near future (we space out our reviews, and had to wait for Lego to actually put up valid links to them).

The size of the brick is less about the launcher and more for the spring that holds it, along with the release. The hold it keeps on the missile is very, very, very slight. You just barely have to touch it to fire it. That's why I left the description of "flick-fire" on the launcher, because it's still basically the same push/flick design. We haven't seen elaborate launchers show up for them, but the overall logic is the same. It just replaces tension on the pin with tension on a spring. But it's not like the old style rubber-tip launchers that act more like a gun and trigger. ... uncher.mp4
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby RfAurora » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:30 pm

I picked up this set with 2 of the new battle packs. I think I might take some of the extra round stud "ammo" from the bps to give a blue engine detail to the BARC speeder.
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby hrafnblod » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:37 pm

I actually really like this set. It has a lot more meat to it than a battle pack for not a lot more money. I'm probably a bit biased towards it since I'm just coming back to the Star Wars sets and, while I have an abundance of old Clones from the episode 2/3 waves, most of my battle droids are lost/clips are broken/etc., so I'm in dire need of clone-light/droid-heavy sets that just don't exist beyond this, right now. All that being said, I like that it has actual generic troops, and I think the speeder build is perfectly serviceable- better than the usual battle pack speeder. The foliage is just icing on the cake.
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Re: Review: 75037 Battle on Saleucami

Postby NblGenKlaus » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:18 am

I did a little research and some comparison in this set, and the result didn't surprise me. I found that the BARC Trooper in this set is in fact Commander Neyo. For those who don't know who Commander Neyo is, he is the Commander of the BARC Speeder Squadron. He is also the Clone in the speeder when Order 66 was executed.
"Clone Commander Neyo was stationed on Saleucami during the Outer Rim Sieges. While on speeder bike patrol with his Jedi general, Stass Allie, he received Order 66 directly from Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. The command identified Allie as an enemy of the Republic. Carrying out the order, he stopped his BARC speeder bike, falling in behind the Jedi. He and a wingman opened fire with their speeder-mounted laser cannons, killing Stass Allie and destroying her speeder bike."
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