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Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

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Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby Staff » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:31 pm

My feelings about Episode II: Attack on the Clones are very much a matter of public record at this point. It's easily the lowest point of the first seven movies. I haven't seen Episode VII, but unless it's a shot-for-shot remake of a community theater version of Hobgoblins with the players all wearing blackface, I can't possibly imagine that it'll be worse than AotC was. Though I do like the implication that I just totally jinxed it.

All of that being said, I actually like a fair number of things and sets based on the movies. How clones were used is kind of dumb in the prequels, but it was really a missed opportunity to play on some pretty deep moral themes in the movies with their use (something that the Clone Wars cartoon actually did well, even if it was a kid's show)... yet Clone Troopers are pretty cool as minifigures. It gave us the Republic Gunship, a bucketload of Jedi figures, and the Jedi Starfighters I like to make fun of and yet inexplicably own every single one (multiples in a few cases).

One could make the case that this is just a glorified battle pack, but you would be wrong, because battle packs have more figures than this typically. Honestly, the only reason I even decided to review 75085 Hailfire Droid is because I hadn't reviewed one yet (Ken did the last one, though I did own, and not like, the set). At least that version came with a spider droid... this one just comes with a Clone Trooper Lieutenant, a couple of super battle droids, and only 163 parts for you $19.99. It's also exclusive to Target in the US, so... not a great start.



After building and taking pictures of the thing (which all turned out orange-ish for some reason), I gotta admit... less than enthused to review this set. I've been sitting on these pictures for months by now, and mostly it was intended as a filler review when I didn't have bigger things. I still have bigger things to do, but I just sort of want the review gone.

75085 Minifigs

Minifig wise, pretty much our clone buddy and the stock Super Battle Droids. Dear LEGO... if you want to get us enthused about battle droids, may I suggest bringing out the old Geonosis types, or the gun arms, or... well, any difference. We have eleventy zillion of these guys, so do all the kids out there. There is nothing different about the SBDs, so those pictures can do for them.

75085 Clone Trooper Lieutenant

Maybe it's just me, but that visor printing on our little clone buddy looks especially nice. He's not unique... sort of. He was released in 2013 as a polybag for Star Wars days volunteers, and then as a promotion in LEGO stores. He's a Clone trooper... with blue arms.

75085 Clone Trooper Lieutenant No Helmet

He's got the standard clone head as well. At least it makes sense on Clones, instead of on all the Death Star, Republic, Storm Troopers, and First Order troops. That's just laziness.

75085 Hailfire Droid

The Hailfire Droid is a set that LEGO has been attempting (and typically failing) for years. The original technic set is still probably the best rendition, because it's the largest. While these were only really seen in the background of Episode II and III, they have just as much crazy background information as everything else, and the IG-227 Hailfire-class droid tank was 8.5 meters tall. Most people in the world can visualize that immediately, but us unwashed 'mericans don't do none of that there metrics systems (8.5 meters is just under 28 feet tall). That makes this droid just slightly shorter than an AT-ST (8.6 meters). LEGO's versions of this vehicle are clearly not as tall as an AT-ST.

75085 Hailfire Droid Front

In a lot of ways, this thing is both a downgrade and an upgrade from the previous version. The most notable downgrade is the lack of tread links. The real highlight of that last set was the addition of smaller treads, and the reason that some of us may have purchased more than one version of the thing.

75085 Hailfire Droid Side

For some upgrades, a lot more thought was put into the wheels on the side, and the structure to hold them in place is a lot beefier. It at least stays on, something that the last one was fairly challenged with.

75085 Hailfire Droid Back

The bigger problem, however, is that the entire thing ends up being far too off-balance, and that weight just serves to tip it backwards. So, if this is a rocket artillery platform, it can get a nice strong parabola. But the rest of the weapons are pretty useless. Luckily, these things were mainly very expensive rocket launchers.

75085 Hailfire Droid Underside

They did incorporate the new flick-fire launchers (or spring launchers, whatever... you still have to flick them) into those rocket packs, which really just makes them look far too bulky take a look at what the vehicle is generally shaped like...

hailfire

It's mostly wheels and rockets, with really being mostly wheels. I get that this would be an especially difficult LEGO build, but maybe that's as much a problem with price point as anything.

Everything about this vehicle is pretty much wrong, and the build loses out on the things that made the last version an attractive purchase, like the selection of parts. The lack of treads, more parts being tied up in technic stuff, and all those  launchers all make this a lesser set than the last one. Even though this should be a good set, as it's one of the few in the $20 range anymore, it just falls short. You're better off spending your money elsewhere, and this guy is a two out of five, tops.

What I Liked

  • Clone Trooper printing looked especially sharp, at least on the one I got

  • There are some decent parts in the set, like the various browns and the like

  • Price isn't awful, something I haven't been able to say about most Star Wars sets this year


What I didn't like

  • No treads kills almost all value for this set

  • Actual build is just awful, tips over, and doesn't look anything like the source material

  • Only one minifig and regular old SBDs means there is little value in the set


Verdict: 2 out of 5. You can buy 75085 Hailfire Droid right now on LEGO Shop. Or, if I may suggest some better sets like the Battle Packs or the Marvel Carnage/Miles Morales set.

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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby wace mindu » Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:38 am

The review is pretty accurate...i normally gobble up low priced SW sets, but as I stood in the Lego aisle in Target, I just couldnt buy this set, opting for my second Shadow Trooper battle pack instead.

It looks like a mini-fighter version of the hailfire droid! ....I really wanted the blue clone, but I couldn't justify paying $20 for one clone, so this was easy to pass up. And considering Anakin's Interceptor is only $5 more, this set doesn't make any sense to buy.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby DagsBricks » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:06 am

Is one of your rocket mounts on backwards? I'd complain about other stuff not being built right but I'm pretty sure that's a design issue.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby dWhisper » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:21 am

DagsBricks wrote:Is one of your rocket mounts on backwards? I'd complain about other stuff not being built right but I'm pretty sure that's a design issue.


Fairly certain that's on backwards. I'd have to double-check the instructions though... there was some weirdness to arrangements on it. I'm not even sure I can blame my daughter for this one... I don't think she ever took it apart.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby Tolwyn » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:23 pm

Please correct your review:
Flick-fire missles are not spring-loaded shooters.

The new set has the horrible spring-loaded shooters. SLS were to mimic LASER bolts; never missles.
As much as Flick Fire gets bad press "as well" if you look at all the mechs out there. Missles are meant to be "hand flown" or flown with imagination. Spring loaded shooters are basically "erectile dysfunction" parts for lego. Pew. Lands 3 feet away. Weeee.

Reminds me of these:
http://www.lurexlounge.com/bsg/vehicles01.php
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby Zrath » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:37 am

Yeah, one of the missile pods is mounted the wrong way in the photos.
Also, two spelling mistakes.
1) First paragraph, first line, first word of the review: "May" instead of "My".
2) Second paragraph, first line, 16th word: "baed" instead of "based".

I built a Hailfire Drone with mine. :)
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby Gingerbeard Man » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:30 am

What's with the tow ball? The previous 7670 Hailfire Droid had something similar using a 3x2 plate with hole at the rear.

I wonder if one could hook them up back-to-back...

Or maybe we're supposed to imagine battle droids on horseback, pulling these across the plains of Geonosis.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby dWhisper » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:41 am

That makes entirely as much sense as employing wild beasts to pull a chariot that hovers.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby Oky Wan Kenobi » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:55 am

In addition to all the other mistakes that others have pointed out (seriously, guys, you need to be less sloppy with these reviews) I also noticed that you put the wedge plates on the outside on upside down which might explain why the vehicle is tilting backwards.

That said, I have to agree that this set is pretty bad. I love the hailfire droid because it was so much fun to drive in the old Battlefront, but I had no interest in picking this one up. The missile pods and wheel mounts are too bulky, the wheels are too small, the missiles are actually laser bolts, it's overpriced and it doesn't include anything exclusive. I wish they would make a new mold for the wheels already like they did for the Technic version. That would have justified the price, but as it is, it's just disappointing.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby sparkart » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:55 am

dWhisper wrote:That makes entirely as much sense as employing wild beasts to pull a chariot that hovers.


Wouldn't one be using domesticated beasts for that?

I felt a little left out of the "let's point out ALL the little mistakes!" band-wagon, so thanks for posting that.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby dWhisper » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:01 am

Actually, all of the stuff that the Geonosians seemed to use were captured wild beasts that were then caged and prodded, thus why I selected wild. If we were talking Naboo stuff, sure, but I think most of the Gungan stuff had wheels.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby sparkart » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:41 am

Ah, my mistake, then. I thought the comment was a reference to the pod-racers on Tatooine being towed by beasts of burden...because the pod-racers are like racing chariots that hover.
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Re: Review: 75085 Hailfire Droid

Postby dWhisper » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:54 am

Hadn't even thought about them... I was thinking more around the arena scene (in an Episode II frame of mind with this set), and the whole absurdity of... well, all of it.
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