dWhisper wrote:. . . and in some sets, printing is still done to make a piece look good (TIE screens, discs on the AT-TE).
dWhisper wrote:But in a lot of sets, printing really ruins a brick (Ahsoka's fighter's big ugly slopes). Not having the stickers means that brick is always like that, and it's basically a ruined part if I ever decide to part it out.
The Brain wrote:Of course, I later discovered that I had placed the nose art stickers on the opposite sides, so I had to take them off carefully and reapply them. It worked perfectly, thank God.
dWhisper wrote: Statistically, they also have a pretty poor price/piece ratio (as does pirates),
dWhisper wrote:and still use a lot of stickers to make bricks, windows, flags, etc.
dWhisper wrote:I only saw a very small number with sticker shields (a couple undead sets that I remember), but a huge number of the more recent stuff had those stupid burp with printing on them or tall bricks with stickers.
dWhisper wrote:I suppose it's a trade off in Star Wars... do you want stickers and new minifigs, or old minifigs with nothing special and printed bricks. Because my understanding of the process is that you can't have both in most cases.
Joedward wrote:The Brain wrote:Of course, I later discovered that I had placed the nose art stickers on the opposite sides, so I had to take them off carefully and reapply them. It worked perfectly, thank God.
Just to poke my nose in. Why didn't you just remove the pieces they were attached to? One sticker on one piece on one side, the opposite sticker on the exact same type of piece in the exact same position......
dWhisper wrote:Did you own any of the Knight's Kingdom or Undead sets? They were riddled with stickers.
dWhisper wrote:And comparing to current sets amounts to a small handful, there's simply not much castle stuff out right now. Those that were hovered around 12-13 cents per set, and while they were an improvement over the stuff from 06 and 07, they're still high. Beyond that, most of the focus is on pirates, not castle
dWhisper wrote:The best set out now, the Market, is unique in being so low. But none of the other sets are at 10 cents per part.
dWhisper wrote:King's Castle, the re-release, has stickered shields by the way, along with the flags.
dWhisper wrote:I've never said anything about figures being stickered, I was showing that as an example of what you get in sets by accepting stickers over printed parts... greater variety.
dWhisper wrote:As for the last thing... my understanding is that teams budget all the aspects of set creation, and there's a finite number of dollars to do everything, get pieces, design the instructions, development of the model (and alt models, as Steve told us), new custom parts and colors, and brick printing. Trade-offs are made between all these aspects. Power Miners traded a bit of piece count for new rock monsters and new colors, and heavily uses stickers (and few, if any, printed pieces). Same with agents. Indy sets use stickers, given the number of custom pieces and colors they employ. Getting printed parts means we lost something else in the set.
dWhisper wrote:I suppose my point in all of this is that the sticker thing has simply been beaten to death, again, and again, and again. More than Clone Wars faces, new grey, and Han-Shot-First combined. Yes, we'd all love printed pieces, but waxing eternal over it just clubs that horse a few more times. Like the scalping thread, this has so run its course. Feel free to keep dragging it around, I suppose.
dWhisper wrote:I suppose clarifying on the lines is important, since there's a noticable difference between KK and the undead sets that followed. My guess would surround the lower production costs of skeletons compared to minifigs (similar to battle droids being cheaper than clones as a forged part than an assembled one). I don't own the sets you mentioned, to be honest, since I focus on castle stuff I can easily reuse in move, and a lot of the parts in newer sets languish unused for all time. I'll tame your word that their ratio has improved, but in my recent buying, Pirates!, Indy, power miners, and even Star Wars has shown the opposite trend.
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