Okay, we see my return to this thread. I will shoot back to jasons's post.
darth jason wrote:Well thats a bit of a contradictory argument really. buying,selling and reselling is all about timing, who you know, how much money/credit you have and to some degree luck because you really dont know what will resell very well until you actually are in the game.
Yeah, but you can guess which will sell. For example, if it says "limited edition," you can be sure it will sell well. This is pretty obvious, because less people buy them in stores, so it will be more likely that people will want it, and be willing to pay more for it.
darth jason wrote:Every single one of these people have had things they have been sucessfull selling and they have other things that sit around for years that end up on or under the discount table. Thats why its a gamble and thats why alot of these people dont do this forever because its really not that easy. I dont go into a store or any other market and buy a product like this based on the owners intent,I already know what their intent is because everyones intent in business is to make a profit, be successful and keep the doors open.
Yeah, but scalpers often inflate a set online just for MISB. It is ridiculous sometimes. You'll see a set for, say, $30, and then, just for MISB, $40. I'm pretty sure anyone can tell you that that person wants to scam you.
darth jason wrote:If i dont like the price I go somewhere else,thats the deal, period; they do or do not get my business based on this one simple fact. Bottom line price. Thats why the moral argument does not apply in the least. You have the answer to this problem if it does exist which as I said before really doesnt, buy from somewhere or from someone else. If a person has money,time and transport than they have all the tools at their disposal...If not get them, but don't cry about some moral deficiancy in someone doing something perfectly legal, perfectly moral and perfectly on the up and up.
That is what I have been saying this whole time. I just, bottom line, don't ever want to buy things from scalpers. I don't care if you put something on Bricklink for 2x MSRP. I just don't want you to clear the stock out of the store just to make a profit. I'm sorry if my opinion wasn't clear.
darth jason wrote:Just because you have no money or job or no inclination to get one. age has little to do with it. You can raise money at any age and if you're 14 or older and you dont have some kind of job you really have no excuse still being tied to allowances and apron strings for something as unnecessary as a lego set. You are the master of your own destiny. The skys the limit especially in the good ole US of A.
Okay, yeah, I'm the master my own destiny on $20 a month, and occasionally being able to babysit my brother. I'm too young to get I job. In this case, age has something to do with it.
darth jason wrote:You dont have to buy from these people if you dont want to. If you missed out on a set from 5 years ago and now you want it brand new, as it stood on the shelf you have to pay for the conveniances that you did not exercise 5 years ago by not buying it yourself. And no one cares what you're excuse is, again intent is irrelevent. People reselling this way have always existed and they will continue to exist long after we're all gone. The longer you wait the rarer and more expensive it gets and as the years go on they are less and less quantity to be found in mint condition. Shot just storing the thing for 5 years costs money. I just dont know how much alot of the con folks understand about all these logistics or are willing to understand about them for that matter.
Yeah, but I don't buy from these guys, and I don't want it MISB, its fine for it to be in good condition out of box. And maybe I missed out five years ago because I wasn't into LEGO at the time, being much younger than I am now. And just saying, I don't think being in mint condition is worth $10.
darth jason wrote:Whoever came up with calling this scalping really needs to get out a little more. Because the behavior that has been collectively described as scalping is what has been going on forever in all the secondary markets everywhere. Whether it be toys,comics and cards, books, antiques, furniture,guns,art,antiques,junk(yes junk),coins, models, pez dispensers whatever. They are out there and they are ubiquitous. Im just seeing a big green eyed monster from the con side based on the arguments I've read.
Okay, I'm not sure what you are saying here, but the dictionary on the Dashboard on this here Mac (As a Windows person, I cringe to use it.)
says: Okay, never mind, because this dictionary is stupid. Going to M-W.com...: "to buy and sell so as to make small quick profits <scalp stocks> <scalp grain> ; especially : to resell at greatly increased prices <scalp theater tickets> intransitive verb." This means I'm gonna stick with you on this one and go say that this is usually not scalping. However, reselling a limited edition set at the end of its run could be scalping.
But I hereby decree that I, as well of the rest of the con argument that chooses to listen to me, shall use "reselling," rather than "scalping."
Sorry if I seem crabby tonight. Sorry about my Mac related comment, it's just that the dictionary is set on just sticking to tickets. I don't like Macs, but it isn't anything personal to Mac lovers. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. Also, if this is unclear, sorry. My head isn't clear tonight.
I don't know why I dropped back here again lately. LEGO can no longer hold my interest, and I'm almost certainly gone forever. Bye to all who remember me.