Mister Ed wrote:So to actually experience the "huge" quality difference in sound and picture, I'd likely have to get a new TV AND a sound system.
Not true at all. While I am currently building a dedicated home theater room in my basement which accommodate a 1080p projector and screen as well as be wired for 7.2 surround, my bonus room currently has my "old-school" gear which is my litmus test for the argument. This old setup has an 11 year old 5.1 A/V receiver, and a 7 year old crt-based RPTV which only supports up to 1080i (no 1080p). (I also have a new Samsung LCD 1080p set in another room)
I have been enjoying upscaled DVDs for many years now on the above system. For a long time I was skeptical of the benefits of blu-ray, seeing as how I didn't have a 1080p set in the house at the time capable of taking advantage of the maximum resolution.
Well, in december I took the leap.
Let me tell you there absolutely is a difference viewing a Blu-Ray at true 1080i vs. a DVD "upscaled" to 1080i. Not only that but a typical blu-ray player today will actually do a better job of upscaling your DVDs than older DVD players with that feature. So pay attention. I'm not even talking about 1080p yet. I am saying a blu-ray at true 1080i is noticeably better looking than an upscaled DVD
, let alone a dvd at standard 480p. (Now if I want to enjoy 1080p, that Samsung LCD I mentioned which was a mere $700 set of course takes the visual quality up a whole other level).
That's the visual. Now on to audio. It's not just a matter of channels. There are different types of audio tracks, DTS, DTS-HD, etc. My "old" receiver can't do any of the new formats, only standard Dolby-digital and DTS. Doesn't seem to matter. The soundtracks that come off a blu-ray movie vs. a DVD sound better, even on my old gear. I can't explain all the technical reasons behind it. Maybe the audio data is less compressed on a blu-ray disc. I don't know. But by making no tweaks to my system I can't believe how GOOD blu-rays sound.
dWhisper wrote:The benefit of BRD is all in your head, for the most part.
That statement is pure ignorance. Sorry. If a person can't SEE the difference between 1080p, 1080i/720p and480p, then they must be unobservant people.
in blind tests, it's a very small percentage who can actually see the difference (I can't find the article, but if I remember it right, it was around 10% of their test group)
I have a hard time believing that, but I have not seen this test you refer to. I don't see how someone could NOT tell the difference. (As I mentioned I can even discern the difference between 1080i BR and upscaled DVD, let alone 1080p).
And since a huge portion of users only operate at 720p (what an upscaler jumps to) or 1080i (worse than 720p), it's somewhat moot in the long run.
Again, no it is not moot. As I already mentioned my own initial litmus test was using my 7 year old 1080i set. And I'm telling you the difference is noticeable.
Sound is another point, where it only matters if you're running an absolutely juiced system,
Again, like I said even with old audio gear (within reason) there are noticeable differences in sound as well. (While my "new" system for the basement could probably be called "juiced" I wouldn't say my 11 year old gear is).
The $600 LCD at Walmart is, and that's what matters. I'm not going to spend an extra grand or two to get what could at best be called a marginal gain.
I'm not sure what this has to do with audio? Are we back to video now? A $600 LCD will absolutely give you the benefit of 1080p. HD flatscreen tvs are becoming rediculously cheap.
But I'd much rather watch it via Netflix, and digital distribution is the future, not BRD,
Netflix has a long way to go in Canada. We don't have anywhere near the selection available up here, yet. And from what I'm told most streamable movies are not available in 1080p yet. Physical media might be an endangered species in the long run, but it will be a while before blu-ray is completely obsolete.